Kanye’s Epiphany

By Will Montei

Sing every hour
Every minute
Every second
Sing each and every millisecond
We need You
We need You
We need You
Oh, we need You
Sing ‘til the power of the Lord comes down
– “Every Hour,” Kanye West

Told people God was my mission
What have you been hearin’ from the Christians?
They’ll be the first one to judge me
Make it feel like nobody love me
– “Hands On,” Kanye West

Why do you pass judgment on your brother or sister? Or you, why do you despise your brother or sister? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written,
“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall give praise to God.”
So then, each of us will be accountable to God.
– Romans 14:10-12

In October of 2019, Kanye released the unabashed gospel album, “Jesus is King.” Amid the discussion of where this ranks in his catalog is another, separate conversation: does Kanye, being…Kanye, really mean it?

History is rife with complicated works from complicated artists, but the urgency of the present moment always seems to complicate matters more. If the Van Gogh Ear incident of 1888 had happened today, Twitter would no doubt have had a field day with it (imagine the memes!), and our perception of his art would perhaps be more colored by the incident’s fresh audacity. Time, however, has smoothed out the wrinkles, and most of us can simply admire his Starry Night without so much worry about why in the world a severed ear ended up delivered to a maid in a town brothel. But imagine if Van Gogh did exist in our present reality, moving in and out of psychiatric hospitals as he did, tweeting all the while as most young artists of the 21st century are inclined to do—how would our dialogue surround and define him?

Like Van Gogh, Kanye West has put forward a substantial body of work that will influence the artistic world well into the future. Like Van Gogh, much of Kanye West’s trials with mental health are public knowledge. Unlike Van Gogh, Kanye is alive and well, dealing with the trappings of the modern age that charge his name with social and political tension. Put simply, he is divisive, and that leads many to view listening to his music akin to casting a vote.

With “Jesus Is King,” Kanye brought his reputation and his music—and all that both things entail—into the Christian sphere. Now on Sundays he puts on extravagant shows with his Sunday Service Choir, aided with some sermonizing by Joel Osteen—most famous for his connection to the so-called prosperity gospel, which makes him a divisive figure among Christians as well. The whole scenario would be completely unbelievable were it not actually happening. And as with most things, our Christian community has opinions. Predicting this, Kanye addressed it head on in his song “Hands On.” “Told people God was my mission,” he sings. “What have you been hearin’ from the Christians? They’ll be the first ones to judge me.” He was right, sadly.

Criticizing Kanye is not unique to Christians, however. Kanye is a lightning rod for slander, often for the very things he’s remarkably candid about—his bipolar disorder, for instance, which people laugh at such as it relates to his tweets, cancelled shows, or delayed albums. Or his mother’s death, which Jay Leno once used as fodder for criticism in an interview in 2009. Leno lectured Kanye by asking him on live television what his deceased mother would have thought about the infamous incident with Taylor Swift at the Grammies. In the same month as that interview, the President of the United States called Kanye a jackass.

And so on and so forth. Kanye receives very little good press as it relates to his humanity. Despite that fact, or perhaps because of it, his music is continually lauded (his album “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy” was among the most critically acclaimed albums of the past decade). So we end up with Kanye the man and Kanye the artist kept at a distance from each other, perhaps because they’re too difficult to merge into a single, understandable portrait. If we take a close look at his music, however, both are fully present at all times. The seemingly inexhaustible ingenuity of his songwriting and the foibles and triumphs of his spirit present themselves inseparably. One need only listen to his album “Yeezus” with all of its chaotic, dark beats and boldly heretical lyrics to see there is more to Kanye than an ill-advised tweet; there also seems to be a man struggling for meaning.

The same is true of “Jesus is King.” The musical intuition is still there, creating moments that only seem possible with Kanye at the helm, as we see in songs like “Use This Gospel,” which preposterously brings smooth-jazz saxophonist Kenny G and the rapper Clipse together and still works, somehow. The honesty remains there as well, as seen on “Follow God,” where Kanye raps about the frustration of being told by his dad that he’s not Christ-like. Yet the overall content is markedly different. As he said going into it, this is a gospel album. None of the usual cursing, sexual puns, or claims of being a demi-God. In their place we find scriptural references, praise, and prayer. In the same song where he laments the judgement he’s received from Christians, he also implores the listener to pray for him. Whatever criticisms there are to be levelled at Kanye, the music he’s given us is nothing if not earnest.

Wondering whether or not Kanye “means it” seems too dismissive of an artist whose body of work carries genuine artistic weight. A more interesting question might be: is the album a moving piece of work? As for Kanye himself, we as a Christian community might offer a dissenting voice of encouragement.

Will Montei received a Bachelor of Arts in Writing from Calvin University and a Master of Arts in Teaching from Seattle Pacific University. In addition to working as a Content Curator and Proofreader for CIVA, he also substitute teaches around the greater Madison area. Aside from writing and teaching, he also enjoys music, holding forth with friends, and spending time outdoors.

5 Responses to Kanye’s Epiphany

  1. Hello. I take issue with your conclusions about Kanye West. I will also say I take issue with reform theology which is apparently your background, and as you will see from who I say I am here, I’m sure you’ll take issue with what I believe. However I’m not here to get into that. Evaluate what I wrote about him based on what I said and my reasoning processes in coming to the conclusions about Kanye West that I have – if you want to get into doctrinal differences, do it with me privately. What I wrote below is a partially edited letter I sent to a ministry written to take issue with their stand on Kanye’s salvation. I’m a visual artist. I also have a strong background in music. Along with the problems with his music there are problems with his cover art as well which I’m sure he created or at the least approved. Both are devoid of the Spirit- Christian DNA. Below you will see why I say that.


    I’ll give you a little background on myself. I’m a Seer Prophet (it’s been 12 years since I was awakened to that call). I’ve had 12 years experience interpreting dreams and open visions, and my track record for accuracy is very high. I had a prophectic dream on 1-4-20 regarding Kanye West. The Lord released me to reveal what I saw to certain ministries/individuals.

    This is what I saw in a single snapshot-like dream image:

    Kanye West’s head, looking straight ahead as though at me, (but not at me) with a somewhat imperious expression. A snake was coiled in front of his lower face, with the head of the snake pointing upwards and positioned at it’s highest level at the level of Kanye’s mouth. The body below the snakes head was fairly tightly coiled, in an artistic manner.

    The interpretation of this metaphorical visual statement is Kanye West functioning as an arrogant, artistic mouthpiece of the devil.

    Before he announced he was saved, I’d been praying for him to be saved. For some reason I’d felt motherly sentiments towards him for quite a while and wanted him to be saved. I’d never listened to any of his music (until yesterday). My feelings towards him weren’t based on being a fan. I had, however, inwardly conceded to myself that yes, he probably was a musical genius, being that so many in the music industry said so even in spite of the fact that his own frequent assertions of it could have turned people off to percieving it and acknowledging it. When I heard in the news about his salvation, I thought ‘ok’ – for some reason I wasn’t rejoicing, but I wasn’t unhappy or thinking it was impossible or upset about it like some people are, either. Then I heard a prophet I respect questioning his salvation and saying that so far certain repentance and renunciation markers were missing, so let’s not jump to conclusions yet. I got irritated at her because I wanted him to be saved. I decided to research how he came to be saved. Alarms went off for me when I found an article about the Pastor of the church he was attending in Calabasas around the time he got saved, I believe. I looked into him/his ministry background and he is a cessationist graduate of John MacArthur’s Master’s College. When Kanye told the pastor he didn’t want to make music anymore because rap was the devil’s music, the Pastor told him it was just an artform and he could use it to preach Jesus. True, but I thought the guy seems to be pushing him – maybe he needs to take some time out of the spotlight to reflect and seek God about next steps. That Pastor then turned around and gave an interview about his interactions with Kanye, which caused me to believe he was exploiting knowing him for personal glory/gain. There was no need to publicize what happened between himself and Kanye – that’s your parishoner. I was concerned that Kanye was NOT in good hands with this guy.

    I continued to think he was probably saved, but when I heard a few things he said about it to Joel Olsteen, it left me cold. I didn’t hear or discern any sense awe coming from him at this great turn of events or any gratitude for it. Something didn’t sit right.

    Later, I asked Jesus if He wanted Kanye to be out there doing the Sunday Service concerts. He said to me “no”. I thought, ok, maybe that’s because it IS too soon and he/his music isn’t sufficiently sanctified.

    Then I heard Apostle Dr. Paula Price, whose teaching and later on her ministry I have followed starting 6 years ago, and whose teaching and discernment I hold in the highest regard, say something about him. She said in a Sunday message on Facebook, two weeks ago, that he was not saved. Before she flat out made that statement to the congregation, she said that no one had heard God rebuke anyone who had said Kanye wasn’t saved (meaning that was one indication from God that he wasn’t saved). I assumed she meant any other prominent prophetic/Christian voices taking issue with it. Then she said he was not saved. She said he had ‘slippery sins’. That’s about all I personally have heard her say, except that she stressed that we have to be able to recognize each other – who is saved and who isn’t. Because it came from her, I realized I had better check myself, and when I did, I realized that my emotional affection for him was leading me to be irritated at and not wanting to listen to other prophets/Christians calling his salvation into question.

    Yesterday I thought about him again and on impulse decided I’d listen to some of his “Jesus is King” album. I was curious. I went to YouTube. I listened to the first 2 songs. I have some musical education at the college level (but no degree) and years of music lessons behind me, as well as an inborn excellent ear. As a Spirit indwelt person who has led worship in 2 churches and who recognizes if the Spirit is in a song or not – because He testifies of it to me – or if the profane has been intermixed with the divine in a song, I knew I’d be able to discern something one way or another about his music.

    The first song on the album starts with a choir – in a frenzied paced, joyless chorus. It immediately made me anxious. Then the song went along in a very unusual and creative manner, especially for Christian music. It sounded somewhat avante garde to me, meaning creatively ground breaking. But Kanye’s first song – I do not care how many times he says ‘Jesus’ or anything Christ affirming in it – it’s dead. Moved me not an iota. The next track is Kanye rapping about how the gospel is true, but via an arrogant spirit/attitude. Not by way righteous conviction. I stopped listening then. What I listened to is his fruit. I remembered we’re to recognize them by their fruit. Clearly if God gives us a measuring stick, He wants us to use it to measure with. Anyone can preach Jesus, saved or not. Keith Green was a accomplished secular musician before he got saved. After he got saved, he helped poor people – invited them into his home and more, and then created some very powerful and great Spirit filled Christian music. Very pure music, unadulterated. He produced good fruit in his life apart from his music, AND in his music, which is apparent.

    I think Kanye has found in “following Jesus” a new direction for himself – as best he knows what following Jesus means, as well as a subject matter that he’s pumped about. He talks about “following” all the time, but I haven’t heard a word about “knowing”. He called himself a Christian a few years ago; I heard him do it on TV myself. He showed everyone his WWJD bracelet, believing that backed it up. His affinity for Christianity has been there for awhile, certainly prior to last year. What happened to him some months ago was some sort of crisis, he has said, but based on what Dr. Price said, and what I heard in his fruit, then what I saw in a spiritual dream, and then asking Jesus directly about it – He wasn’t saved then. I believe he probably hit a very hard wall in life where he didn’t know what to do or where to go, and already having some affinity for Christianity, he climbed in over the wall into that sheep pen.

    After concluding this, I started asking myself what would satan gain by deceiving someone as prominent and artistically so, as Kanye West, regarding being saved. Here’s what I saw.

    1. Confuse the body of Christ even more as to what is of the Spirit or not. So many believers are naive as it is and don’t think things through, reasoning from scripture. They don’t exercise or seek to gain discernment. 2020 is a time to more clearly seperate the sheep from the goats according to more than one prophet l heard just prior to 2020 (Jesus has told me who to listen to). I’m not a prophetic word chaser. I heard one of these prophets say this – “God wins all the time because He thinks”. satan knows a lot of Christians don’t think about spiritual
    matters in depth at all, and will buy into Kanye’s salvation not even bothering to exercise brainpower to evaluate what’s true or not about what’s being said about it by himself or others. Many well known leaders/ministries say/agree he’s saved. And sadly CBN used an interview with Kim Kardashian attesting to Kanye being born again to advance their position that He’s saved. Kim Kardashian?? Is SHE saved? She and her sisters have been wrecking the culture for years by being possessed by Jezebel spirits.

    2. BeIieving he’s saved will reinforce a hybrid, impure Christianity, which is a weak one. There is power in purity and 2020 and beyond is a time when God wants to manifest His power. One prophet said it is the era of Elijah. People want and need to see God’s power. Right now Christians think running around in yoga pants is some powerfully affective way to draw unbelievers. They believe a Christian looking like the unsaved they want to reach is going to draw them and help save them. By their coolness, I guess. But you can’t change them by attracting them through a pandering engaging in their sins (which they don’t even realize wearing skin tight, body revealing clothing is-sin). We need to see real power. As well, Kanye West lives a life of bloated, self-pampering material excess. No apparent movement away from that. I wonder if he has put his wife on notice to stop pushing immorality by being on “Keeping up with the Kardashians”. What the West family does will influence Christians, who will think what they do is ok to do.

    3. His front and centerness in Christianity/culture helps keep Christians in thrall to ‘coolness’, because he continues to embrace that. Frankly believers need to STOP trying to be cool. Jesus didn’t help people by adopting cool cultural trends which have demonic origins. If He thought His looking attractive was going to get in the way for some, as He did he (He came as a plain looking man) then I don’t think Jesus thinks being visually cool/trendy in dress/hair/lifestyle etc. iis going to help either. Cool is neither hot nor cold – actually it’s the definition of lukewarm. What did Jesus say about lukewarmness? So believers cleaving to coolness denotes some level of spiritual lukewarmness. Kanye is a king of cool. Now the body of Christ thinks it’s great that a big time, prominent ‘cool guy’ is saved because they view it as validating the faith. It makes them feel better about being a Christian because they don’t know what Christian identity is in any depth and detail or know and accept its value. They are clinging to cultural defintions of value. And if the enemy can direct Kanye into spiritual lukewarmness via his cool presentation of himself, and Kanye then continues in this hyperative Christ professing lifestyle, that barely paused after his suppposed salvation to get to know the person he claims to be a mouthpiece for, he’s pulled off a great deception. And what IS a “radical salvation” anyway? They’re all a miracle of grace. Why does he seek to elevate his purported salvation as being of some sort of superior class? That statement right there should set off alarm bells. You can’t be simultaneously arrogant and recieve Jesus in the same breath.

    4. Regarding rap. It’s a great art form for preaching a message due to it’s emphasis on spoken lyrics over melody. As an art form it’s very popular with unsaved young people. But its Christian expression is often ignored on Christian radio stations, according to Christian rappers. Now more Christians are going to listen to a dead, spiritually adulterated version of it via Kanye West and think that’s what Christian rap has to offer. I do believe God wants to use this culturally pervasive artform right now. Even before now, I saw that this artform was important. Think what God could do with a rapper who ONLY used Bible verses, artistically/strategically arranged in a song (like Handel did in “The Messiah”) to speak to people. They’d start hearing, then quoting pure scripture to themselves all day long! How great would that be for them! Speak/quote the word over yourself all day long! That’s the potential of this artform. Then there’s the second Kanye song I listened to on “Jesus is King” – it opened with the words – “I yelled at the chauffer”. God help us, send us the true Christian rappers and help them to be seen and heard. NOT Kanye West and his dead “gospel”/rap. THEY need to be heard.

    Kanye is a big distraction and water muddier related to Christian music/art. So maybe what Christians and as well Christian artists need to address first/ in their work is God’s holiness and the matter of purity, and discernment. Right now a counterfeit Chrisitian artist who has huge cultural influence is grabbing a lot of attention and outputting artistic but spiritually dead songs that are being categorized as gospel music. Kanye West may also be being used as a conduit for a great many false conversions, because as the word says over and over in Genesis chapter 1, we ONLY bare fruit after our iwn particular kind.

    Gabriela M.G. Sader

    • “You can’t be simultaneously arrogant and recieve Jesus in the same breath.”

      I appreciate this point, Gabriela, and think it might be best applied to its source.

    • Thanks for your comments, Gabriela. I appreciate the amount of thought you’ve put into this conversation. Put simply, I do not believe it is man’s duty to be the judge of another’s salvation. That’s a mystery beyond our knowing. This may simply be a difference of theology between us. Regardless, my overarching point was to encourage an engagement with Kanye as a serious artist and not merely a celebrity prone to err, which of course he is. I recommend listening to the rest of the album, and perhaps also his latest release “Jesus is Born.” Music is a language of its own. It’s interesting to consider what a melody can express which a lyric cannot.

      • Hello,

        You say it’s not our duty to judge anothers salvation. I’m not sure what you mean by, “judge”, as people mean different things when they use that word. I don’t want to use time going over that issue now, but the verse in Malachi I used in replying to “Josh” speaks of God telling us we CAN discern between the righteous (God’s family) and the wicked (children of satan) – and in the New Testament we’re told that ‘You will know them (those who are saved) by their fruit’. Inner and outer fruit. Why would we be given a method to discern between a true and false believer if God didn’t believe it was necessary/and want us to use it/do it? One reason to do so is so we don’t get entagled with counterfeits. They do harm. Marrying an unbeliver does harm and is therefore forbidden. Right there that command (no unequal yoking) necessitates we discern/evaluate a person to see if they are born again or not.

        I did listen to the rest of “Jesus is King” on Tuesday. Not because I doubted my own earlier conclusions, but to know what else he produced on that album, believing hearing it all could be used to help others. My view hasn’t changed based on hearing the entire album. Just now, in order to get a sense of who he’s been as an musical artist prior to the Jesus themed albums, I listened to 2 songs each from 4 of his albums – his early career, middle, and his last secular subject matter themed album. I agree Kanye is a serious artist, He’s a genius. He’s an avante garde artist working in the rap genre who has done a lot of creative, ground breaking, innnovative things within it. I have no problem or beef in acknowledging these things about him. He has celebrity, but I don’t think he’s sought it for its own sake. He’s a genius – THAT label he has pursued and declared and sought acknowledgement of. And I haven’t said or believe “oh, no, he’s just too great a sinner to have been saved”- I started this discussion to focus on the fruit he’s been producing artistically, not the sins he commited in the past.

        I absolutely agree with you that the music/melody part of a song has it’s own message and have been aware of that since the 90s, not many years after my own salvation. It has a spirit. That’s why it doesn’t work to take a secular song, remove the lyrics and substitute-in Christian lyrics. The lyrics are basically unequally yoked to a secular spirit/message within the melody.

        Getting back to Kanye West, but also on the topic of the message through a melody; when I listened to his previous work I was actually really shocked as to just how dark the melodies are (I knew the lyrics would be). In fact that darkness of tone devolved into demonic/flat our evil in spirit in his songs. A Christian musicians can go dark in tone in order to help the light to be ultimately seen, but not demonically dark. I felt when listening to these songs like I was locked in a small, sterile room with flourescent lighting that I couldn’t escape from that was filled with impending doom I was being marched down the road towards. Some songs were as blatantly demonic as a Black Sabbath song, and some were blasphemous. And demonic darkness is exactly what I heard in EVERY melody I listened to on “Jesus is King”. Some of the darkness is superficially “light”, however, such as the first song on “Jesus is King”. Actually so is the first song on his first album “College Dropout”. That’s telling – it’s like he’s employing the same strategy in what he’s doing now as then, which was to demonstate something about his identity – then, what a genius he is, out of the gate – and years later, his genius established, now he uses the same strategy to announce a different (wrongly percieved) thing about his identity, which is he’s a follower of Jesus – “that’s who I am/my mission. So both albums start with a first song containing a thesis statement. In “Jesus is King”, he doesn’t come down as obviously and blatantly hard, dark and demonic tone -wise as in his earlier work, but it is NOT in any way, shape or form divorced from it. Tell me, wouldn’t you think there would be some joy somewhere, melodically, in this new music, to match positive things being said about God by him on this first album, coming out of a joy of his newfound salvation and gratitude for it – especially from someone who was saved out a life and crisis like he’s said he was in – if it was actually there?? Nope. Zero zip nada. Is the album highly creative, etc.? Yeah. So is “Guernica”, so is “The Rite of Spring”. I suspect that last year unsaved Kanye couldn’t go any further by artistically celebrating and talking about the many permutations within the life of sin – he flat out ran out of material and maybe even just got sick of saying the same things, and his artistic integrity wouldn’t allow him to create retreads, so he then hit an artistic wall (and a sin induced psychological one by his admission, too), and found a way to step back from the precipice through a false conversion and the new seeming direction it offered him. He grabbed onto it like a life saver – but a life saver for his ARTISTIC life as the subconscious motive, NOT to save his eternal soul. So he recieved, via deceiving spirits and likely self-delusion, too, satan’s counterfiet salvation. Who knows what exactly went on in his mind to convince him he’d accepted Jesus. THAT is the mystery. And I wonder why a person who blasphemously called himself and one of his albums “Yeezus”, but was now saved, wouldn’t want to take out an ad on the Jumbotron in Times Square renoucing having done this to the world and apologizing to God and the body of Christ for it – if he were truly saved. Not that he should do so in perpetuity, but yes, he should want to let the entire world know how sorry he was for that. He’s commited plenty of lesser overt attacks on God, in his music, but THAT one would need to be publically dealt with. Apostle Paul went away for many years soon after he was dramatically saved and immediatly/susequently preached Jesus for awhile afterward. I am quite sure, to no insignificant degree, there was present the need to deal privately, inwardly, with the havoc he commited against the church, so he could be in alignment with Jesus and the HoSpirit relationally and in order to go forth with the testimony and work God had waiting for him. Later he made public confessions of the kind of sinner he was, it’s seen in Scripture. Not so Kanye – he’s barely missed a beat after his “salvation” before going on a relentless public tour and creative marathon. We have to face up to things we’ve done in the past. Look them square in the eye and consider their impact on Jesus and others and ourself. I hear nothing in the news of his confronting anything except stopping cursing and asking his wife to stop having sex with him as the way to solve his sex addiction. That doesn’t solve it though, it just removes its outward expression. Stopping cursing and sex for awhile doesn’t necessarily need the Holy Ghost’s help to overcome. He acts like he hurt no one or the entire culture, actually, but was just personally bound. Where is the contrition? Paul had it; he speaks about how bad he was – and not as some brag as some people end up doing. And Kanye strategically accuses Christians and then whines on one song that some Christians will criticize him, and asserts that in fact they’ll be the FIRST ONES to do so and make him feel “nobody love me”. Oooh, poor guy. He has a family that genuinely loves him at the least. Plenty of others, even believers, have less. Ok, so he takes a shot publically – in front of the unsaved world aka God’s enemies at his supposed brothers and sisters in Christ as a reaction to some present or expected criticism. Publically. That right there is out of order. I’m sure Paul understood why the body was cautious about believing a Saul of Tarsus got saved. He didn’t bemoan or bear a grudge against those who were suspicious of him. That song, with its accusation against Christians smells in part, too, like a preemptive defensively motivated attack to deflect more criticism. Guilt ’em.

        Most of today’s believers are happy about his claims of salvation because to them it’s a big public endorsement of the faith by a “big fish” God supposedly reeled in. It validates the faith to them because he’s a person who is a huge cultural icon and importantly to them, a cool one. The body of Christ is caught up in mimicking sinful cultural trends and coolness and want cool people to endorse the faith (they refuse to distance themselves from being cool out of fear of ridicule at not looking and acting, to some degree, that way). They wrong headedly employ it all the time in trying to draw sinners. Hillsong has a song, “I am who You say I am”. Yes, we are who GOD says we are, and God says in the Word that we’re a “peculiar people”, NOT a cool people. Body of Christ, embrace your peculiarity in Jesus’ name, be completely infused with your peculiarity and manifest it in speech and appearance and all areas your lives before the world. In other words, be purified salt.

        I’m not uplifted, encouraged or edified by Kanye Wests’ album. I’m not ministered to. I hear verses that come off as cliche when used by him. The same verses in Hillsong’s hands would not. The genuine love of God and desire to glorify Him is infused in their music. Not in his.

        One last thought. Kanye went to art school, he’s a visual artist too. His album cover art speaks. I’m a visual artist (painter), I have an eye, training, creative work behind me and a PhD in Fine Arts; 31 years of salvation and 10 years as Bible teacher. So I interpret from that foundation. Both Christ themed album covers are disturbing. The “Jesus is King” cover makes me feel like someone picked the album cover up and pressed it to my face 1/2 inch from my nose. It says to me I’m gonna push my so called conversion/new direction in your faces the same way I did my embrace of sin and genius status. And in sophisticated way. The “Jesus is Born” album cover sends a message too. It’s message is “bloated”. Not impregnated and birthed – bloated. I’ll leave that to visual artists to contemplate and think about rather than do a full explanation of that interpretation here.

        His fruit is rotten. I heard him tell Joel Olsteen he was going to serve God with his arrogance now, meaning that it was now being employed in Jesus service. Ludicrous. He aims to minister to the entire planet thinking God’s looking to speak through arrogance?? (arrogance = pride on a loudspeaker), not meekness? He claimed at Joel Olsteen’s church God now has the greatest genius He ever created working for him (in himself). He did not qualify it as greatest musical genius, even. Handel’s Messiah refutes that. Pride blinds.

        There are clues to his true condition out there if the saved world would just slow down and listen and evaluate carefully what he’s saying and doing, instead of being lazily intellectually blind to it. “God wins all the time because He thinks”, one great Christian said. Regarding the issue of recognizing other Christians spiritual identity, if you try but can’t seem to be clear in your heart about it, just directly come to God and say to Him “please, help me, I need to know the truth about this person I won’t call darkness light and insult and misrepresent You and confuse others and get hurt. And it’s your will I know this, please communicate it to me somehow and help me know the truth about him”. Asked rightly motivated – sincerely desired for righteous reasons with a right heart, and you’ll recieve an answer. Kanye West has huge influence, how much more we need to know who he is independant of what he says about himself.

        satan is decieving/guilting people into thinking it’s not God’s will we know – that to try to know is to want to condemn him. That’s unbiblical. Jesus says you WILL know them, and know them by examining their fruit. He WANTS you to know. Much of the body has hesitated to seek to know because they think it’s wrong to do so, but many ALSO don’t try because it’s just too good to be true that he’s saved so they want it to be true because it’s a balm to their lack of spiritual self esteem and shores that up in their hearts through these huge, cool icons or artists accepting Jesus. This happens because so many Christians only superficially know the value of being in Jesus’ line and family through His blood, so then they feel the need to seek validation other ways. A strong sense of identity and it’s value = a person of strong conviction re: who they are who can’t be easily thrown off/ picked off. Kanye is being used to confuse and decieve people about spiritual identity and who’s the real deal and who’s not. He’s already tried to guilt and shame Christians about wanting to have more than his verbal assurance he’s saved, and has condemned Christians for saying otherwise. That creates infighting in the body. Some HAVE accused him in a knee jerk, stupid, cynical, unthinking, wrongly motivated manner, but alot of those accusations are pretty obviously done out of those reasons and if others can see that, a very smart Kanye West either has or can too. All naysayers are not THOSE people. Let’s pray as regards spiritual identity we can all be very clear in our hearts about it in ourselves and about others. SATAN’S agents know who THEY are AND who WE are – saved or not – God doesn’t want US TO?? Some of the enemy’s effectiveness against us hinges on recognizing who’s who. I don’t want to say it, but the enemy knows this better than the worldwide body of Christ currently knows it because we don’t study and think and ask for discernment. PRAY FOR THIS TO CHANGE. Don’t let Kanye West’s creative excellence blind you to the presence in his work fruit of spiritual bankruptcy.

  2. And please specify exactly why you’re making this accusation, instead of engaging in an unsupported drive by.

    Malachi 3:18 – “Then shall ye refurn, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that servthh Him not.

    How is it I failed in the above? Be SPECIFIC.